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I remember reading this in 2005 and it still makes good reading now. I don't think much has changed with the huge exception of the rise of ebooks. How bookshops are going to deal with those will be interesting to see. Since I publish with the new small press, Ward Wood, I'm always interested in the ways publishers without the money to get into 3-for-2's and other such promotions (like competitions as well) need to be creative in finding ways to promote their titles. I know you don't work for Waterstones any more, but a front-of-house table devoted to new releases by small presses would be terrific, don't you think? They could easily start with "A Clash of Innocents" by Sue Guiney :-)

I totally agree, Sue. ;)

It will be fascinating to see a similar article in, say, ten years, once e-books have found their audience.

Good stuff. I think there’s a lot of unpublished authors and frustrated readers who complain about the quality of books that get the spotlight as if all that were required would be for them to take over at Waterstones or the TLS.

It’s like William Goldman says, when writing about which great movie failed, why some films that sucked made money and whether certain films would’ve done better with different stars: ‘no one knows anything’.

People in the entertainment business broadly try to do their best and to cater to most audiences, recognising that some mediocre stuff has to pay for the quality and that there’s nothing wrong with pushing stuff that is undemandingly enjoyable.

That said, my heart sank this morning when I got off the Tube to be confronted with a poster advertising Tara Palmer-Tomkinson’s ‘debut novel’ (you expect me to believe a cultural figure of her standing hasn’t published before? What, not even a collection of poetry?).

Scott - can you explain what happens when Waterstones select a book for promotion and the book's publisher declines to make a 'marketing contribution'. How do we know that the criteria for selecting such books isn't tainted by an expectation of which publishers have the budget to support these promotions and which don't? It certainly seems that this may a possibility.

A very good question Chris and one I cannot answer with 100% confidence as I haven't had anything to with Waterstone's for some years.

In my experience though, most publisher knew what the charges were going to be before submitting so the situation you describe rarely happened and I suspect that is still the case.

Sometimes a publisher would allocate a certain amount of money and then find that Waterstone's had selected far more books than they had expected so would knock a few books out as a result.

And certainly I have know for a small publisher to decide not to take part once they have totted up the costs.

These were very much the exception though.

Are the centre page extracts that frequently appear in newspapers also paid for by the publisher?

Just curious.

Hi Scott...

Interesting stuff.
As a bit of a writer, I'm more concerned with the virtual monopoly that Waterstone's now has. Once this monopoly is combined with a central stocking policy every shop stocks the same stuff, like Boots or Jewsons, and minority books thus become completely invisible to the public.
My own titles seem to have been recently wiped from the computerised stock list, presumably for not hitting their sales targets. Now they will have no chance of making a come-back or even of selling at a tick-over level as no shop or reader will even know about them.

What are your views on this issue?
Obviously all shops can not stock all titles. I do appreciate the problems buyers face, but I'm sure the answer to this problem must be found by The Big W. If no answer is found, then I think POD will soon begin to render the monolith obsolete.


Best wishes Chas Griffin

The most effective reviews come from readers who have paid for the book. Many online sites now make this possible, and what excellent honest feedback it is for author and publisher.


We have a bookshop but we don't do 3 for 2s. I find your point of view really interesting, especially the 5000% increase in sales. My take on it as a buyer is somewhat different,

http://hurleybookss.blogspot.com/2010/04/do-3-for-2s-work.html

I find 3 for 2s a barrier to shopping which almost seems counter intuitive.

You make an interesting point on your blog Liz but I can only speak for my time at Waterstone's and there we tried dozens of other mechanics - money off, 2 for £10, BOGOF, sales, clearouts, 2 for £20, etc. - and nothing worked anywhere near as well as a 3 for 2 in terms of units sold, market share, margin and revenue.

It may not be to your personal taste, and having been around for so long it may seem a bit dull and uninspired, but if Waterstone's stopped doing it they'd probably see a big hit in their sales.

Whether it would work for you is another matter entirely.

It's not at all surprising that my buying habits are so easily predictable, as I use the 3 for 2 in exactly the way you describe - using my 'free' book to try something different. I probably fall into another well-known sub-group, that of people who usually end up buying 6 for 4...

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